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NOTE: I am talking about premades and cut-outs here, not ALL stock. And, not all premades and cut-outs are "bad." Just be careful!

I declined 2 photomanip DD suggestions today because the artists used stock (1 used a premade background and 1 used a cut-out psd file) from stock artists who did not say where their original sources came from.

These were really good suggestions, too, from amazing artists who truly deserve DDs. One of them has never had a DD before.

What am I ranting about now?

As an example, let's say you use an ivy psd file for your work. You need to know that the stock artist himself/herself took the picture of the ivy or that it comes from another legitimate source. Too many people pull images off of Google and cut them out to make "psd stock." So, if the stock artist doesn't say where they got the picture they used from, I would recommend not using it.

Likewise, a lot of people take stock pictures from sxc.hu or purchase them from dreamstime or shutterstock (or other similar places) and then make them into premade backgrounds. This is against the license agreement, which does not allow redistribution of the stock images. So, I cannot give you a DD for using these kinds of premade backgrounds.

EDIT: lenagold.ru specifically states that they get their images "from all over the Internet." That doesn't sound legitimate to me. Am I missing something?

These are not my rules! 

Aside from not getting DDs, another reason for making sure you know where the stock you use is coming from is that, if dA finds out that the stock is from an illegal source, it can be scrapped or deleted from the site . . . AND if it is, your deviation that you spent HOURS making can also be removed.

I think that's my biggest reason for turning down DDs (aside from low quality or lack of clear concept): improper stock (followed closely by no credits, as you saw yesterday).

A lot of people are wondering why they don't have DDs, and there is often a very simple reason. The good news is that it can be easily remedied in the future. :love:


Hope that helps. :heart:

Jade


Be careful when using premade backgrounds or cut-out stock!
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thefantasim Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013   Digital Artist
This is a good article with information that I didn't know. I must share it at my group.
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LadyEvilArts Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013   General Artist
Thank you for the information. I have a stock account where I provide hq cutouts besides common stock images. I've added a line to my stock rules saying that I'm uploading only my own photos and as for cutouts, wrote in comments "made from my own resources" so everyone who's going to download them could feel safe about their future artwork.
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Aeirmid Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013   Digital Artist
thanks. That makes a huge difference. :huggle:
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EveLivesey Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Professional Photographer
Jeez and here am I cutting out MY photos of dolphins - to offer as PNGs and make brushes and everyone is going to get scared off - (joke!). Can't we have some kind of accreditation process please so that people can make use of premades and PNGs that are legitimate? And as for stock photos - out of the top 20 or so most popular stock images in the last 24hours (yesterday) about half were stolen off some poor photographer or uploaded from wallpaper sites. Someone needs to get a grip or everyone is going to be frightened off using free stock!
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Aeirmid Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012   Digital Artist
I think what needs to happen is that if you are offering pngs or psds or anything you just need to say "this is from my own stock/photograph/whatever".
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EveLivesey Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Professional Photographer
But lots of people say that - doesn't make it true does it - that's the problem. There are a lot of stolen photos on DA where the person who uploaded them says that they took the photo..........
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Aeirmid Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012   Digital Artist
That's true. Save from running everything through tineye, I honestly don't have the answer then. I think the best we can do is go by the FAQs on the clipart sites and take artists at their words when they say that something is theirs. I personally tineye everything but even that is not a guarantee. I am really open to other suggestions and am talking with dA to see what their thoughts are, too.
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EveLivesey Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Professional Photographer
No - if you tineye'd some of my stuff it may come up on Flickr or my website - this is confusing for people (however I am lucky because I have always been known everywhere by my real name - so it's slightly less confusing). Also searching for something that has been cut-out by someone is difficult for the search engines as the background has been extracted. Unfortunately I think we need to clean up DA before we start telling people that they shouldn't download from other sites - the implication is that stock on DA is safe. Solution? I haven't got a clue :-)
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Aeirmid Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012   Digital Artist
Thank you for your thoughts. This is really helpful.
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EveLivesey Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Professional Photographer
Most welcome - right - off out to party now - have a very Happy New Year :-) :iconhnyplz:
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